Just wanted to say thanks for the heads up. Honestly I never thought about this issue but it makes sense that everything in the world is pirated and bootlegged that it would make it's way to the outdoors industry. For most products it is not an issue. I've know a few people to come back with north face stuff from china. But when it is climbing gear it is a whole different story. Pretty simple that if you find a deal that is to good to be true, then it probably is! YOU GUYS SHOULD PUT SOME VIDEOS OUT SHOWING THE TWO PRODUCTS AND WHAT CAN GO WRONG WITH THE BAD ONES.